Hi

Lawrence and Elena here and this is our first post. Hello

We are thinking of getting two cats, a Siberian and a Ragdoll. We will be buying them from breeders as soon as we find breeders that can deliver both at about the same time. These will be our first ever pets.

We live in a one bedroom apartment and we are slightly worried about space. So much so in fact we are wondering where to put the cat litter. We would really like to buy this http://www.catgenie.com/ as it is self cleaning so no mess (hopefully). Can anyone recommend it?

One problem though, the only place we seem to have space for it is in the bathtub. It is a normal sized bathtub. Has anyone every placed cat litter in a bathtub before? Will the cats be able to reach it when they are younger or older? We will probably be getting the kittens at 12 weeks or more.

Many thanks for your help.

I've seen this self cleaning litter on line before. Looks like a cake mixer to me LOL. Whilst it looks effective, I think there is a maximum weight stated. So, if your cat grows any bigger than that, he/she won't fit. I don't know how big a Siberian will grow but Ragdolls can grow quite big.

As for putting the contraption in the bathtub, hmmm I've never heard of anyone doing that. But I think you'll have problems in training the kitten to jump into the bathtub unless you place a stool or something. As it is, you'll need to introduce them to their new litterpan as simply as you can to make sure they actually use it in their new environment. Putting in in the bathtub I think means, the kittens will not be able to see the litterbox...

Another option could be LitterKwitter. It's a contraption that trains your kitten to eventually use our toilets. Visit www.litterkwitter.com

Although during the first stage, you'll have to place the contraption on the floor, it takes up less space than the normal litterpan since it's smaller and eventually you won't need one. My cats on going through the training now

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fareen,where do u get the training litter? how much ?

Got it at Pet Epicure taman melawati. www.petepicure.com
RM269.

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Thanks Fareen, I never thought a cat using the toilet would be possible. I would be curious to know how yours get on.

We just don't like the smell nor do we want the mess of scooping the litter. We are not lazy but if we can find alternatives then I think we will pursue them.

How do you find it sharing your toilet with a cat?

It is possible for cats to use our toilets Just visit the website, there's a video on the website and tonnes on youtube. Just google LitterKwitter.

Zero poopee smell is definitely impossible using normal litterpans or even the automatic one. From my experience, nothing will work perfectly where the cats are concerned as they have a mind of their own and I think that's one of the beauties of having cats.

Even if they were to use our toilet, there might be a slight smell unless you're able to flush it immediately.

However, if you were to use normal litter you can control the degree of smell by using a suitable litter and frequent cleaning of the pan and yes, that means scooping.

I've tried a few types of litter and so far Breeders Select works best for me.
It's made of recycled paper so it can be flushed. It is also heavy therefore no tracking. But because it is non clumping, it is advisable that the poo be scooped very often. What I do is scoop the poo out immediately (I know their poo cycle) and add on a bit more litter. Once a week I clean out the whole litterpan. Almost no smell!

I really dun mind sharing my toilet with the cats and honestly, they've made a really hygienic person out of me! LOL! It just means daily scooping (my cats only poo once in 2 days but I still have to scoop out the pee) and sweeping the bathroom floor since some will fall on the floor when they're doing their 'covering' action

As for LitterKwitter, how fast they adapt to the training depends on the cat. I have no problems with Sophie and have managed to get till stage 2 but Dexter is more nervous therefore we've had some setbacks with Dexter as he just refuses to go stage 2. Unfortunately we have to go back to square 1. If it was just Sophie I think in 2 weeks time, she'd be using our toilet already. Generally it should take about 1 1/2 months for a cat to complete the training and start using our toilets. But in my case, it will take longer.

With the cats, patience and understanding is key Obviously TLC is given

Just a word of advise, if this is the first time you're having cats, you might want to chill on the 2nd one. Having one can already be quite overwhelming. And note that cats are territorial. Since you're getting 2 who have not lived together, you cannot expect them to share the litterpan or feeding bowls immediately. I've known of some cats who refuse to share! Therefore, in the beginning, I would suggest to get 2 litterpans otherwise, one may decide to poo outside the litterpan! They will indicate to you when they're ready to share...

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Hai fareen, you said cat are territorial... my question is.. are there any diffrents between female & male in term of territorial? I believe Male cat more aggresive is'nt it?

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