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Old 30-11-2006, 01:35 PM
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Exclamation What's in it as a CHAMPION?

After attending so many shows for the past years, I would like to share with others especially new comers to the cat fancy either as a cat lover or even those who wanna be a breeder in the near future some insights about the titles given to pedigree cats during a cat competition.

A cat competition is very important for both pedigree cat owners and responsible breeders to know whether their pedigree cats had any sign of faults or shortcomings or how good their cats are. Most cat shows (CFA shows for example) practice open judging whereby the judges will give comments on the cats they judge. With this vital information, responsible breeders will determine whether to breed the cat, continue to show them either in the Champion class (for pedigree cats that had yet to be de-sexed) or Premier Class (for pedigree cats that had been de-sexed) or even keep them as a pet (not for showing).

Nowadays, I had observed that some 'smart' breeders had been lurking into cat shows and seemed to have only one motivation: entering their cats to get the Champion titles for their cats. Once the 'Champion' title had been, their (the cats) career in shows will be over and the next step, the Champion cats either be sold at a higher price or used in breeding in order to produce kittens which are sold at higher prices as well since both parents (or maybe 1 parent) are Champions. Sadly to say, many buyers do not know how the 'Champion' title is earned and they were so blinded by this Champion title, thinking that the cat or kittens produced by Champion cats must be a good (Show) quality which is not necessarily true.

How is a Champion title being awarded you may asked? Of course by winning 4 Winner ribbons (CFA shows in this region). The simplest way to accord these Winner ribbons is by putting in a pedigree cat which no one has in a show for example; if someone had brought in a Cornish Rex and no one else, automatically, that Cornish Rex would be awarded with a Winner ribbon in every ring of the show. Should it be a 4-ring show, that Cornish would be an easy Champion since there is no contender at all.

Another scenario would be by putting in a pedigree cat with a 'unique' color class of the same breed in a show. Here, 'unique' is definied as no other pedigree cats of a same breed would have the same color class as the one shown. For example, if there is 3 Orientals in that particular show and being 2 of them having the same color class while the third one is a Brown Tabby, automatically, the Brown Tabby oriental would have a Winner Ribbon in every ring since there is no other Orientals with the same color class competitng with it.

Now, back to the scenario of a buyer who wanted a good quality pedigree cat. Firstly, never let a breeder influence you about the Champion titles. Bare in mind that, a good (Show) quality pedigree cat is determined from its ancestry which can be seen on their Pedigree Certificate obtained by recognized cat associations such as The Cat Fanciers Association (CFA), Federation Internationale Feline (FIFe), The International Cat Association (TICA) etc. From the Pedigree Certificate, the achievements for each parents' cats can be seen by the titles they obtained or earned. Always look for the titles such as GC (Grand Champion), DW (Division Winner), NW (National Winner), RW (Regional Winner) etc. whereby this title are more meaningful as this champion has to compete among the champions & beat them to collect 75 GC point (winning 75 champion) in this region (ID Asia/Latin America) and 200 GC point for Region 1 - 8 to become a GC. As for DW, RW, & NW, this can be achieved by accumulation of e-points within a show season meaning the number of cats you beat in every show ring & for that you need to be final. DW & RW is awarded to the top 15 cats & NW to the top 25 cats in the world at the end of the show season.

Therefore, a note to all breeders that should you think your cat is good, don't let your cats stop at Champion. Competing with other Champions is the platform to determine how good is your cat.

This article is not refering to any specific person. Read with discretion.
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Old 30-11-2006, 01:50 PM
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A wonderfull insight!!!
I am nuts over shows biz.

Just a question.. to be a champ, a cat need not necessarily win all the 4rings in a single show? Can it be accumulated over several shows?

75 GC point? Does this mean that he won 75 Grand Champion Ribbons?
So it would be some 19 shows of straight A's.?
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Old 30-11-2006, 01:56 PM
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Yes Kulstud2, winner ribbons can be accumulated. Once a cat has obtained 4 winner ribbons even in more than one show it will be a CHAMPION.

What Horatio said makes perfect sense but please bear in mind that some CHAMPION titles are not easy to obtain when there are a lot of good cats in the same color class.
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Very good H, I hope tht more ppl will understand the meaning of this title & will not allow some unethical breeder con them with a mere championship title for a higher price if it does not mean anything. A champion title achieve by a cat under a bigger number of cats in the same category competing for it will be more meaningful, tht why it important tht the cat tht achieve it's championship title shud continue to compete in the championship for grand to know how good it is.
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A wonderfull insight!!!
I am nuts over shows biz.

Just a question.. to be a champ, a cat need not necessarily win all the 4rings in a single show? Can it be accumulated over several shows?

75 GC point? Does this mean that he won 75 Grand Champion Ribbons?
So it would be some 19 shows of straight A's.?

The 4 winner ribbons can b accumulated in time.

GC point is point gain per champion cat u win & this also can b accumulated in time.

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thanxs for the insight horatio!

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75 GC point? Does this mean that he won 75 Grand Champion Ribbons? So it would be some 19 shows of straight A's.?


Winning 75 times GC points means...1 GC points for every champion among champions(Winner Ribbons=300; 75 champions title and the best among them)...so, after 75 winnings then became a Grand Champion...wuahhh thats not so easy...
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thanxs for the insight horatio!



Winning 75 times GC points means...1 GC points for every champion among champions(Winner Ribbons=300; 75 champions title and the best among them)...so, after 75 winnings then became a Grand Champion...wuahhh thats not so easy...

May I ask where u get this equation
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out of curious (and also because I only have DSH..)..

Can a Domestic (from household category), if win a champion in its category, will it be allowed to collect 4 ribbons to be called a Domestic Champion?

Can the dom aslo go on for further competition for GC or something...

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out of curious (and also because I only have DSH..)..

Can a Domestic (from household category), if win a champion in its category, will it be allowed to collect 4 ribbons to be called a Domestic Champion?

Can the dom aslo go on for further competition for GC or something...

"Interested"


I think HHP not given winner ribbons. (Winner ribbon - the 3 colour flag right?)

Well I'm no good at this either. Do pardon me if I'm wrong.
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May I ask where u get this equation


4 Winners Ribbons=1 Champion; so 75 Champions = 4x75=300; but ofcourse I assume that the cat won every GD points..in every championship...sometimes it takes more than 300 Winners Ribbon if the cat didn't get the GD points...am I right???...correct me..

NO! Household cats CAN NEVER
participate in Championship or Premiership...they can just won the 1st-10th Ribbon (not winners ribbon-white blue red)...thats all...collect as many as ribbons you want...still the same. In fact its for fun only maaaa...we were lucky enough CFA has this category...

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yeah.. CFA is then very considerate!. Good cat club.
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