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Old 11-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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Exclamation What breed is my cat??

So many people are confused about their cat's breed. So, to simplify :

1. *Registered pedigree x correct registered pedigree = Registered Pedigree**
2. ***Registered pedigree x wrong registered pedigree = Domestic
3. Pet shop cat x Registered Pedigree = Domestic
4. Pet shop cat x pet shop cat = Domestic
5. Rescued cat x pet shop cat = Domestic

* Some breeds of cat can be "outcrossed" which means you do not have to mate the same breed to each other. Eg. Abysinnians to Somalis, Persians to Exotics, Siamese to Orientals.

**Registration of the litter depends on the breeder. Some breeders can't be bothered to register the kittens, on the assumption that they can sell the kittens cheaper. This is NOT an ethical practice and good, reputable breeders do not practise this non-registering.

***This means you have to registered breeds which should NOT be mated to the other - eg. Maine Coons to Norwegians, Persians to Maine Coons, Abyssinians to American Shorthairs. The end result is that the kittens cannot be registered anywhere at any time and the kittens become Domestics.

While some cats "look like" whatever breed, they can never be registered as that breed. So, you can claim that your cat is a Maine Coon X, or Persian X.

Hopefully, Arisham will come along and translate this post into BM for easy understanding.

Jay, can you make this into a sticky please?
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:12 AM
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So many people are confused about their cat's breed. So, to simplify :

1. *Registered pedigree x correct registered pedigree = Registered Pedigree**
2. ***Registered pedigree x wrong registered pedigree = Domestic
3. Pet shop cat x Registered Pedigree = Domestic
4. Pet shop cat x pet shop cat = Domestic
5. Rescued cat x pet shop cat = Domestic

* Some breeds of cat can be "outcrossed" which means you do not have to mate the same breed to each other. Eg. Abysinnians to Somalis, Persians to Exotics, Siamese to Orientals.

**Registration of the litter depends on the breeder. Some breeders can't be bothered to register the kittens, on the assumption that they can sell the kittens cheaper. This is NOT an ethical practice and good, reputable breeders do not practise this non-registering.

***This means you have to registered breeds which should NOT be mated to the other - eg. Maine Coons to Norwegians, Persians to Maine Coons, Abyssinians to American Shorthairs. The end result is that the kittens cannot be registered anywhere at any time and the kittens become Domestics.

While some cats "look like" whatever breed, they can never be registered as that breed. So, you can claim that your cat is a Maine Coon X, or Persian X.

Hopefully, Arisham will come along and translate this post into BM for easy understanding.

Jay, can you make this into a sticky please?



Oh! sure...

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Terdapat ramai pemilik kucing yang seringkali keliru tentang jenis kucing mereka. Baiklah, untuk memudahkan anda :-

1. * Kucing baka X kucing baka dari jenis yang sama = kucing baka berdaftar**
2. *** kucing baka X kucing baka dari jenis berlainan = kucing tempatan!
3. Kucing yang tiada sijil (selalunya dibeli dari pet-shop) X kucing baka berdaftar = kucing tempatan!
4. kucing tiada sijil (pet-shop) X kucing tiada sijil (pet-shop) = kucing tempatan !
5. kucing yang diambil dijalanan/tempat kucing X kucing tiada sijil (pet-shop) = kucing tempatan!

* Terdapat jenis kucing yang dibenarkan kahwin silang, iaitu ia tidak perlu dipasangan dengan kucing dari jenis yang sama. Seperti Abysinnians dgn Somalis, Persian dgn Exotics, Siamese x Orientals.

** Pendaftaran (sijil) adalah terpulang kepada pembiak-bakaan. Sesetengah pembiak-bakaan tidak mendaftar kucing mereka bagi mendapatkan sijil untuk menjadikan harga kucing tersebut lebih murah. INI BUKANLAH ETIKA YANG BAIK bagi pembiak-bakaan, lazimnya pembiak-bakaan yang baik/terkenal akan memastikan semua kucing mereka didaftarkan!.

*** Ini bermakna kucing tersebut HANYA BOLEH DIPASANGKAN dengan jenis yang sama.Contohnya Maine Coons dgn Norwegian, Persian dgn Maine Coons, Abysinnians dgn American Shorthair. Jika ini berlaku, anak-anak kucing dari hasil pasangan tersebut TIDAK BOLEH DIDAFTARKAN dan akan dikenali dengan kucing tempatan!.

While some cats "look like" whatever breed, they can never be registered as that breed. So, you can claim that your cat is a Maine Coon X, or Persian X.

Sekiranya kucing anda menyerupai kucing baka (mana-mana jenis), walaupun mempunyai perangai dan rupa yang sama..anda masih TIDAK BOLEH mendaftarkan kucing anda. Anda hanya boleh memanggil kucing anda dengan panggilan 'menyerupai' (lookalike)..

Contohnya,
anda ada kucing bulu panjang yang rupanya sama dengan kucing parsi..anda hanya boleh memanggilnya dengan 'rupa macam kucing parsi' (persian lookalike) atau lebih mudah DLH (domestic longhair)..

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Jadi, jangan terlalu mudah memanggil kucing anda kucing Parsi, kucing Birman, Kucing Siam JIKA ANDA TIDAK MEMPUNYAI sijil.
Sebaliknya, kucing anda hanya boleh dikenali dgn panggilan :-

1. DSH (Domestic ShortHair) = Kucing tempatan berbulu pendek
2. DSLH (Domestic Semi-LongHair) = Kucing tempatan berbulu separa panjang
3. DLH (Domestic LongHair) = Kucing tempatan berbulu panjang

Saya juga ingin menasihatkan peminat-peminat kucing AGAR TIDAK TERTIPU dengan kedai haiwan peliharaan (pet-shop) yang seringkali mengatakan kucing mereka adalah kucing Parsi (Persian)-contoh. Pastikan anda meminta sijil pendaftaran sebagai bukti kucing tersebut adalah kucing baka.

Keduanya plan dengan baik jika anda inginkan kucing...jangan membeli kucing domestics dan kemudiannya membuangkannya hanya kerana anda telah cukup duit membeli kucing baka !!!...Simpanlah dan menabunglah untuk membeli kucing baka.

Sekiranya anda betul-betul berminat tetapi memerlukan pembiayaan 2-3 kali...anda bolehlah mencuba berbincang dengan pembiak-bakaan (breeder). Lazimnya jika anda menepati atau dipercayai..breeder akan memberi anda pembiayaan 2-3 kali..terpulang pada breeder untuk menetapkan syaratnya.



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Jay, can you make this into a sticky please?
Done. With this thread, hopefully in the future, nobody will ask "How to register the cat I found or got from friends "
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Thank you both!

I really do hope this clarifies matters...

Not that I mind answering inquiries at all!

I just have to repeat again...

Any cat bought in a Petshop (no matter how many thousands you spend) = Domestic (LH/SLH/SH).

A breeder's certificate/pedigree does not equal registration papers from a recognised Cat registry.

If you still have any queries, just drop me a pm!
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:10 PM
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finally i found what i want hehe gud infoo..

one more thing..

leh explian tak..

pembiak bakaan tue saper yerr....

ada tempat2 dia ker...
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:27 PM
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pembiak-bakaan tu breeder
mereka ialah orang yang memelihara/menternak kucing baka...antara yang didalam forum nie :-

abymummy = abyssinian
coony = maine coon
mykatt = norwegian forest cat
catizzadi = persian
comycats = exotics
heartkiel = siberian
farish73 = maine coons
--- just to name a few
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Old 15-01-2007, 04:35 PM
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oo ii cc..

adakah breeder2 ini menjual kucing-kucing baka ini..

sebenarnya saya ingin mengetahui adakah pet shop di merata negeri merupakan breeder2 yang boleh kite dapat kucing2 bakaan ini..

* sorry banyk bertanya pulak.. si iseymiyaki nie heheehh
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sistem kucing bukannya ada stokis bang....so, PET-SHOP lazimnya TIDAK MENJUAL kucing baka kecuali kalau mereka membelinya dari pihak-pihak lain dan menjuakannya semula!. Untuk mendapatkan kucing baka anda PERLU menghubungi sendiri breeder-breeder di atas...

sesetengah breeder mempunyai kedai TETAPI MEREKA TIDAK MENJUAL KUCING DOMESTIC..lazimnya mereka hanya menjual peralatan, makanan dan vitamin-vitamin kucing...
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oo ii cc..

adakah breeder2 ini menjual kucing-kucing baka ini..

sebenarnya saya ingin mengetahui adakah pet shop di merata negeri merupakan breeder2 yang boleh kite dapat kucing2 bakaan ini..

* sorry banyk bertanya pulak.. si iseymiyaki nie heheehh

pet shop adalah bukan breeder yg sah sebab sebagai seorang breeder yg bertanggungjawab, mereka akan mendaftar diri mereka kepada persatuan kucing antarabangsa seperti CFA, FIFe, GCCF, TICA etc.

Saya syorkan supaya jangan membeli kucing dr petshop sebab:-
1. Baka tulen kucing mereka adalah meragukan

2. Kesihatan kucing tidak terjaga dengan baik. Kebanyakan vaksinasi dan imunisasi tidak diberi kepada mereka sebelum dijual.

3. Kucing diletakkan di dlm kandang atau kubikel yg kecil yg menghadkan pergerakkan mereka dan juga tidak mempunyai belaian kasih dr orang. Ini amat penting terutama sekali kepada anak2 kucing sebab kucing yg manja dan boleh berinteraksi dgn orang bermula dr penjagaannya sewaktu kecil.

utk pengetahuan anda juga, breeder yg bertanggungjawab juga tidak akan meletakkan kucing mereka (baik baka tulen ataupun tidak) di petshop utk dijual.
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boleh saya tau....

1. selalunya brapa harga kucing2 baka ni?

abyssinian
maine coon
norwegian forest cat
persian
exotics
siberian

2. kenapa harga kucing2 baka ni dijual dgn harga yg mahal?


3. ini je ke baka2 yg ada? can somebody list down all the type of cats?


4. apa berbezaan kucing ni? is it just outside (apperance) different but inside all the cats is the same?
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