Need some advice from Abang2 and Kakak2. I have 2 anak and 2 anak pun dah buat rumah I macam kapal karam (If you come to my house, you will think I angkat sofa / carpet dari tempat buang sampah). Kapal Karam meaning when I came back from work, the house will be messy with tikus mainan, alas kaki dan carpet semua tergulung, kerusi meja makan terjatuh atas lantai, lantai basah (MC I suka main air) and bulu terbang satu rumah.

If your carpets/cushions were being left wet for many hours and happen every day, the lifespan will be very much shorter.

My point is, how to train anak-anak nakal? Or what did I do wrong?

My MC is healthy (confirmed by the vet) but he seems to be a little under weight! I have been thinking, if I was in cat's size and running/jumping around my condo at all times everyday, I won’t be fat either! For a cat, my condo is considered big because the only place I don’t let them to go is my bedroom. (It is a 3 room condo with large balcony).

So, soalan I berbunyi:-

1)Dengan anak-anak senakal lanun macam tu, boleh ke I ambil anak ke tiga? And what makes your cats becoming hyper (over play)? The mix persian is a kewl guy but at most all the times, he loses his "kewl" because the MC loves to gigit dia - ajak main!

2)Do you think I should put my son (the MC) into the cage, so he will be less hyper? All the while I against the idea of putting cats into cages but with this behavior, I don’t know!

3)Kalau bukan salah ibu kucing mengandung, salah I ke? You guys had no idea how I use to “terkejut” at night when they start playing. And now, if pencuri masuk rumah I pun, I ingat budak2 tu tengah main! So, is it my fault that makes them love to play day and night?

4)I give the MC macam2 including appetite gain, nutri gel and nutri cal. But in my observation, he is not getting fat because of his hyper; it has nothing to do with other things. He eats a lot! But he jumps and run around the house a lot. He likes to play until at the end he will sit and panting bad. What shall I do?

But one thing tho`, if strangers come to my place or if I invited you guys to my place, I bet you wont be seeing them playing. I seriously need your opinion/help/advice on what to do and tell me HOW can he becoming so hyper? He even chases dogs in the grooming place (place he is familiar with).

Imagine that!

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I love to play with cats and it has been my nature to behave like cats when I play with them. I used to play kejar-kejar and tangkap-tangkap and cakar-cakar with my MC last time, I reduced a bit after he became hyper.

Do you think that makes him hyper? If so, why all my other catsssssssssssssss yang I pernah bela including my current mix Persian never becoming hyper?

Don’t tell me that you can’t teach Maine Coon to play kejar-kejar and tangkap-tangkap and cakar-cakar and meow-meow?

Anyone can answer this? Maine Coon breeders and experts? Please?

Satu lagi - MC I makan daging mentah!

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Aiyo J, J.... sian ko... well, begitulah bila ada anak2. let's see aku bagi sepatah 2 kata utk menolong mengurangkan kerisauan, kerungsingan J ya... sila rujuk bawah...


kalau dah anak2 ko tu memang tersangat aktif tu, aku rasa u wud hold on to ur 3rd one lah. as they said, the more the merrier. Lagi happy MC2 ko tu main kejar2 nanti... y certain cats r hyper, it is all depends on his metabolisme. Kalau metabolicnya tinggi maka aktif lah dirinya....

kalau MC u dah biasa ngan freedom, n then u letak diorang masuk dlm cage, yes, u restrict freedom dia tapi he might get agitated n start to meow very loud. u boleh try but my hunch told me that he would not like it... for me, i also against the idea of putting cats dlm cage. nampak cam kesian aje. tapi setiap org ada opinionnya yg tersendiri kan. so, bergantung kpd masing2 lah...

my Casper masa kecik pun macam tu jugak. ada ke dia buat aku cam batu loncatan. asyik terkejut aje aku. kalau u nak buat diorang less active, u can try this. feed them food juz b4 u go to sleep n hopefully dgn perut kekenyangan tu, diorang akan tidur jugak lah. atau, b4 ko bagi diorang supper, u bleh main2 ngan diorang. buat diorang penat, then bagi dia makan.

as i mentioned, bila metabolic rate dia tinggi, means that dia burn food very fast. so, kalau dia tak gemuk tu, means that all the food had been converted to glucose, a source of energy in the body.

What can i suggest that, u pergi vet n tell him ur situation. Most likely the vet will give u a medicine that will make ur cat a bit less active (lalok sikit lah..). this medicine is use to treat hyper-active cats, cats in distress or when the cat needs to travel in a car for long distance.

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Hhmm....from what I understand, MCs are already naturally active cats; as in naturally playful and energetic cats. Yes?

Seems to me, what you face is to be expected. Perhaps they are not stimulated well indoors being on their own, so they get about with anything they find that will stimulate their active behaviour. That behaviour could've been further shaped by your own energetic and playful sessions with them. So, when they enjoy what you've been giving them, what are they supposed to do when they don't get that while you're away?

Most people who are really into cats, get a type of breed based on their lifestyle since the temperament of different cats varies; hyper vs non-hyper, vocal vs non-vocal, self-sufficient vs dependant, etc. Looks like you got yourself a cat via "love at first sight" rather than suitability or denial of the reality surrounding their temperament. I know some friends took an instant purchase the moment the seller said the cat or dog was "self-sufficient" without further questions. I'm just speculating okay, don't get mad.

Well, Jay, most of it are expected after having gone through the MC's temperament profile at various sites. Most seem to have some sort of almost full-time human companion availability or some outdoor stimulation for their MCs. Haven't really seen any sites that matches your situation one for one. Generalised understanding of MCs was obtained from here.

People say MCs can be easily trained, I suppose what can be done is to figure out what else you can do to keep them focussing on non-destructive play things in your condo.

I doubt you're going to use drugs to "de-stress" them everytime you leave for work. Temperament of different breeds of cats pretty much is my point and providing the closest environment they seek would be the goal.

wooz....

if you don't want the whole house to be kapal karam why don't you restrict them to a room while you work???

i have no MC or pedigree, so cannot give advise on temperament la... my cats also well-behaved even though only domestics. so, my house is as i leave except the occasional furball, muntah kucing and tahi tercicir je la.

Hmm...My Maria also sometime not well-behaved..Well, sometimes she kindda moody..

Last Saturday, I nk keluar pergi keje then I panggil2 dia..tapi dia buat tak tau aje..So I dukung n timang2 dia mcm baby lepas tu..dia cakar tangan n gigit jari I..what a ****!!!...Geram betul, then I cari dia (ingat nk babap la) tapi dia pandai sorokkan diri dia bawah kabinet TV..Sometimes tu I gerammmm teramat sgt2..Ishhh...Once dia gigit & cakar..u all tau la sakit dia mcm mana kan..

Kalau mood dia kurang baik mcm tu la..Tapi klu I & my Hubby ada kt rumah tak ajak dia main ke gurau ke..pandai pulak dia nk menggesel2, bermanja2..ajak org main dgn dia...

Guys, how can we train them for not to be this kind of way..

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If only cats grew into kittens....

if we train them from young, they would know what their doing is wrong...

but, cats will always be cats.....they just tend to be too playful or mmg takde mood nak layan kerenah owners, so they bite n just buzz off...

i always have a rotan handy.......

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garangnye mummy miaw...

my cats dulu kena babap kat dahi... so kalau angka tangan trus cancel niat tak baik dia tu...

my cats now ni tak de la nakal sgt...

Mercy,

I think like mummy cakap, kalo train dari kecik die senang sket nak paham, tak la ketegaq (degil) sangat... my Knight pon hantu gak kekadang tu. Dalam my apartment, he can roam anywhere he wants except the kitchen n my parents' bedroom. Tapi yang dilarang tu lah yang dia ndak kaco. I jentik jek telinga die. Diam la kejap. Nak pukul tak sampai ati, tapi ingat nak beli gak la rotan satu. Just in case...

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Thanks guys.

My problem is with my Maine Coon (the naughty one). His brother, the mixed Persian is a kewl guy. I have to agree with Horatio and Woozy about MC’s natural temperamental – they are a little different.

Every time the MC made mistakes like “jatuhkan barang” from the place he shouldn’t have climbed, he would run off. I tried to chase him, mostly he would never stop even if I called for his name. He knows that he going to get “rotan”!

It is not that I didn’t train my cats, its just that, I find it difficult to teach “ANAK yang tak dengar cakap”.

I’m sure my neighbor would think I have a real son name “Rory” rather than Rory the cat because I bet people can her me screaming his name and run all over the house chasing “Rory”. To make the matter worst, at most all the times, I failed to catch him. That makes my “jantung sakit!

It is easy to train Trey (the mixed Persian) to come to me or tell him not to do something. When I said “No”, Trey will stop doing things I don’t like. But, the MC didn’t listen. When I said “NO” from far, he would paused a while.. (1 second only) and then continue doing it. He will start running when I walk to him. Sakit tak hati?

He is a smart cat, I don’t deny that part.

The reason why I posted this issue is to ask opinion if you guys have idea how to “educate” my naughty son to be like his mixed Persian brother. I just want him to learn to listen to me… susah betul jadi single parent .. now only I know! Sedih betul lah!


PS- I dont mind his "hyper" behavior but I wish if he could be anak soleh - dengar cakap orang tua!

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My Boys:- Trey Joshua Jay (DLH); Leroy Allen Jay (MCO); William Henry Jay (MCO)