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Old 08-01-2008, 06:29 PM
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eh, betul juga cakap ko fanaticat.kadang2 ko ni ok juga.heh!! heh!!!


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that's why kena tolong dia... lagipun mungkin niat dia buang kat pasar sebab senang dapat makan... niat dia baik... tapi sebab mungkin dia tak faham bab cat's territorial instinct ni, tu yang dia tak terpikir bab cat's survival nih... so... the job of the sifus here is to enlighten people to know better about cats... tak gitu bro... kalau main tembak-tembak... takut orang tak nak tanya dah bila ada problem... in the end... cari own solution... sudahnya lagi banyak strays... lebih kurang chain reaction gak la nih...

kita ni pun bukan lahir terus pandai... kena belajar gak baru faham... semua orang macam tu... lambat ngan cepat je bezanya...
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:18 PM
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My family has started caring for several cats since last two years. Our problem started last 7 months, when several cats started coming over to our house and decided to stay even though we didn't feed them. Since we cannot support a lot of cats, my family took the option to buang some of the stray cats at the pasar near our house. However, that did not solve our problem as some other stray cats will still stop by our house. What should we do to stop these stray cats from coming to our house?


ye laaa bro...sian gak dia kena tembak...but u hv to admit that at least she/he is being truthful...and in way it shows that she/he is a bit naive...she/he was doing what she/he thought was in the best interest of the cats...mmg niat dia bagus but the implementation is not quite correct...but she/he dont deserve to be lambasted laa...

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that's why kena tolong dia... lagipun mungkin niat dia buang kat pasar sebab senang dapat makan... niat dia baik... tapi sebab mungkin dia tak faham bab cat's territorial instinct ni, tu yang dia tak terpikir bab cat's survival nih... so... the job of the sifus here is to enlighten people to know better about cats... tak gitu bro... kalau main tembak-tembak... takut orang tak nak tanya dah bila ada problem... in the end... cari own solution... sudahnya lagi banyak strays... lebih kurang chain reaction gak la nih...

kita ni pun bukan lahir terus pandai... kena belajar gak baru faham... semua orang macam tu... lambat ngan cepat je bezanya...
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:42 PM
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Could I suggest spaying/neutering these cats before releasing them back? This way they will not have a chance to add to the population of stray cats.
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Never buang any strays kat pasar or any where else! U have not right to re-locate them in such a cruel manner where mereka akan kena bantai oleh territorial cats yang telah bertapak di sana dan mereka tak familiar dgn tempat baru tersebut and do not know where to hide. Animals have rights too, bumi ini bukan hak manusia sahaja!

At least SPCA put them to sleep in a more humane manner ...


Who says that one has no right to re-locate cats? Animals have rights...yeah a right to live and not be abused and yet you support SPCA in putting them to sleep???? And you think thats humane??!!! Lo brother, you're weird!!!if you do not control them, they will end up being a nuisance in this case and in any right mind, anyone would re-locate them and that indirectly is doing the cats a favour. Cats are territorial and they know how to take care of them selves automatically. There is no worry for this. At least she had the heart and effort to re-locate them rather then throw stones at them to chase them away or worst to send them to spca.

So if this place is not only for manusia, agreed!! but would you like to adopt the cats instead to help her????
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:45 PM
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my other suggestion is a bit costlier. cat proof your front yard or back yard. my own front yard is almost catproofed, so that my cats can't go out. others also can't get in. install nettings at you gate, your fences, whatever holes they can get in.


A very brilliant suggestion!! Thumbs up!!
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Could I suggest spaying/neutering these cats before releasing them back? This way they will not have a chance to add to the population of stray cats.


Its a good idea tapi awak nak tolong bayar ke? Please understand situasinya. How many can one afford to spay atau neuter stray cats and will it help to stop the cats from coming to her place??
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that's why kena tolong dia... lagipun mungkin niat dia buang kat pasar sebab senang dapat makan... niat dia baik... tapi sebab mungkin dia tak faham bab cat's territorial instinct ni, tu yang dia tak terpikir bab cat's survival nih... so... the job of the sifus here is to enlighten people to know better about cats... tak gitu bro... kalau main tembak-tembak... takut orang tak nak tanya dah bila ada problem... in the end... cari own solution... sudahnya lagi banyak strays... lebih kurang chain reaction gak la nih...

kita ni pun bukan lahir terus pandai... kena belajar gak baru faham... semua orang macam tu... lambat ngan cepat je bezanya...
No, brother, the end does not justify the means. Also, it is never a sifu's job to enlighten anyone, there should never be any subsidi mentaliti or tunggu suap mentality, not for myself or anyone else and the sooner we all understand this and stand up and make a difference in this world the better world it would be and done faster. The problem is always kita ni manjakan diri sangat, always fast to make excuses for ourselves but not for others, kulit nipis tak leh terima sebarang teguran, cakap lebih cepat terasa. No, we must all be strong ... and kalau dah buat salah sungguhpun niat baik, stand strong and be ready to terima kena marah or belasah ... never go whining and justifying what U did, just terima hukuman like a man/woman, admit the fault (tak kira niat baik ke tak baik) and just move on to do better from there.

Never always take the easy way out. In fact after 1 year into caring for the poor cats and really seeing their suffering (a lot caused by ppl who claim to be ignorant and slow learners) walaupun saya diamkan diri while ppl like Rhazes or Scallop tembak ngan machine gun, I can see where the anger is coming from. These r ppl whose hearts have been (how to say?) ignited with a burning passion to protect these suffering animals after their eyes and hearts have been opened as to the amount and extend of the sufferings of these poor innocent defenseless animals. While the self-claimed ignorant and slow learners beg to be understood and treated with gentleness, by the same logic and line of reasoning, so much more so these poor innocent defenseless animals which have as much right to live and the ppl who care and love them. These animals and caring ppl have feelings and suffer too.

Zaman dulu kat skolah, bila buat salah kena belasah kat cikgu besor dan kecik dan juga mak bapak tak pon kitorang lawan balik, justify ini itu, niat baik tak baik ... just tunduk bagi ponggong utk terima rotan, pastu bila dewasa jadi org baik.

Tapi zaman skang, huuuh!!! tak leh tegur langsung ... mak bapak datang belasah bukan aje cikgu kecik, cikgu bosar skali mak bapak datang dlm Mercedes Benz bagi penampar. Habis masalah samseng kat skolah, Mat Rempit, etc, etc ...

Bang, harsher is the act of dumping the cat. At every turn, there is a confrontation with a territorial cat for food and territory. After the 1st territorial cat, there is a 2nd cat, after that a 3rd. If there are 20 cats already in the pasar, this poor newbie gets into 20 confrontation and fights with injuries 20Xs, itu pun kalau dia masih mempunyai energy and muscle to fight/defend himself. God help it if it is a small cat ... I also had the same option, but I never chose it ... and don't ever say that saya punya kedudukan is better, becos I also worked hard to get to where I am without expecting for handouts.
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Who says that one has no right to re-locate cats? Animals have rights...yeah a right to live and not be abused and yet you support SPCA in putting them to sleep???? And you think thats humane??!!! Lo brother, you're weird!!!if you do not control them, they will end up being a nuisance in this case and in any right mind, anyone would re-locate them and that indirectly is doing the cats a favour. Cats are territorial and they know how to take care of them selves automatically. There is no worry for this. At least she had the heart and effort to re-locate them rather then throw stones at them to chase them away or worst to send them to spca.

So if this place is not only for manusia, agreed!! but would you like to adopt the cats instead to help her????
Makcik oi, here relocate mean buang kat pasar bukan adoption lei ... yr machine gun sudah salah point-point weiii ... I know U sudah overflow with passion tapi aim sebelum tembak, ya? Mati katak pulak ...
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:30 AM
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Who says that one has no right to re-locate cats? Animals have rights...yeah a right to live and not be abused and yet you support SPCA in putting them to sleep???? And you think thats humane??!!! Lo brother, you're weird!!!if you do not control them, they will end up being a nuisance in this case and in any right mind, anyone would re-locate them and that indirectly is doing the cats a favour. Cats are territorial and they know how to take care of them selves automatically. There is no worry for this. At least she had the heart and effort to re-locate them rather then throw stones at them to chase them away or worst to send them to spca.

So if this place is not only for manusia, agreed!! but would you like to adopt the cats instead to help her????
NENEK OIII!!! ORANG TU CERITA BUANG KAT PASAR DAHHH, BUKAN CARA LAIN DAHHH ... BUANG PASAR LA, BUANG PASAR LA, BUANG PASAR LAAAAAAAA!!!! NO WONDER LA ORANG SLALU MARAH KAT U NI, NENEK BETOL!!!!
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My family has started caring for several cats since last two years. Our problem started last 7 months, when several cats started coming over to our house and decided to stay even though we didn't feed them. Since we cannot support a lot of cats, my family took the option to buang some of the stray cats at the pasar near our house. However, that did not solve our problem as some other stray cats will still stop by our house. What should we do to stop these stray cats from coming to our house?


i faced the same situation when i started caring for few cats (but they are not from the street).. i think cats ni too friendly so when they thought they have extra food to share, they invite their new found friends (stray cats)..extra food = share with friends.. i found out it only happens when i let my cats roam freely outdoor..biler balik jer mesti bawak kawan.. why don't u try keeping your cats indoor for a while..feed them inside the house..biler takdek food mesti diaorg cari kat tempat lain..

(tak pun ur cats jambu sgt kot..thats why yg lain dtg lepak kat umah u.. )
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