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Old 29-07-2005, 05:15 PM
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Jay,
catalina say right...really have show quality persian chincilla..
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To Persian breeders or whoever who has knowledge in this matter, I like to know whether Persian Chinchilla is recognized by any cat associations, and if they do which one?

Why is it called “Persian” in a first place because the face is not flat? What is the relationship between pedigree persian (peke face) and Chinchilla.

Those who just guessing for answers, better don’t do it because I wish to know the real answer rather than getting “I think aaaa”… as an answer.

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it had been recognizes by England cat association (USA more earlier).
and i know that persian chinchilla is one type of persian cat which was 'modified' from persian cat.tat's y ther got a 'persian' word infront of its name.
i'm not sure whether it hav relation with pedegree or not.
By the way, face of chinchilla is quite flat, and more adorable than persian....that's wat i feel of my own chincilla =)

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You've pretty well got it! But Catalina's statement about South Africa and the closed genepool is true. Their chinchillas were by and large stuck in a sort of time warp unaffected by the progress being made elsewhere in this colour/pattern of PERSIAN (its type standard reads exactly the same as a black for example, in just about every association) and those cats are homozygous silvers... I started breeding in 1964 with chinchillas and it was shocking to think of mating to anything but (black) chinchilla or black shaded silver!!!! (Of course, there are now also "contemporary type" chinchillas in SA.)

However, starting in the USA, matings to blacks, blues, etc, to improve type took over and now most of the world has chinchillas bred that way (back in the pedigree!)

The hard fact is that a chinchilla should ideally have the same type as a best in show black persian.
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It seems like the paragraph trying to say that the non flatface persians/chinchillas are not show quality lah... in a polite and indirect ways.. (Correct me if I am wrong)

I feel so much frustrated already!!
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That "chinchilla" is not a breed - it's a traditional, designer name for a particular pattern. Just as classic tabby is, for example. Chinchilla traditionally means a cat with inhibitor, which restricts (wipes out) the colour from the hairshaft except the tips, over the surface. It's an agouti cat and the babies are born looking tabby. And along with that goes tabby-style eye and nose outlining which remains, unlike the baby tabby markings.
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Could you find Aussie breeders that have Persian chinchillas that look like this? (Non Flat face). And if you could, may I know the price for it excluding shipping.

PS- I want a pedigree (Any international association will do, but the priority goes to CFA)

PS2 - I am not rich .. dont quote me more than Aust $2000, please? After the convertion to Ringgit MYSIA plus the shipping, it sounds BOMB!
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ya...i also want to know the price in RM(plus including shipping)....just like u jay..i also like non flat face (chincilla long hair)..but jay, if u consider to buy chincilla nanti let me know juga, coz i pun berminat ngan this cat dr dulu lagi..just tunggu bugget jer

ader yg local chincilla long hair ker....
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Lesley,
Could you find Aussie breeders that have Persian chinchillas that look like this? (Non Flat face). And if you could, may I know the price for it excluding shipping.

PS- I want a pedigree (Any international association will do, but the priority goes to CFA)

PS2 - I am not rich .. dont quote me more than Aust $2000, please? After the convertion to Ringgit MYSIA plus the shipping, it sounds BOMB!


Jay, something with a face that length (sorry!) would probably be from a backyard breeder (which you should NEVER deal with!) and would cost maybe AU$250. Backyarders don't register and there's no CFA in Australia. The burmilla breeders in Oz are trying to find something like that to use with burmese in their programmes and are having zero luck. AND be very much aware that there are cats that look like that in Aust, called (cringe!) "Austiffs" but they are not recognised by the two major bodies in Aust and have burmese in the background.

Sorry, I just can't help you, I'm afraid!
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Backyard breeder? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa

Nobody ever hurt me like you do *sobb*. The cat in the photo is “Snowbell” the cat actor in “Stuart Little 1 & 2”.

He is handsome.. damn beautiful! With that look, he can easily “squash-out” (in my opinion) all other flat face Persians. (If I were the judge)

I never liked flat-face cats. I just want “Snowbell” alike.
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Backyard breeder? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa

Nobody ever hurt me like you do *sobb*. The cat in the photo is “Snowbell” the cat actor in “Stuart Little 1 & 2”.

He is handsome.. damn beautiful! With that look, he can easily “squash-out” (in my opinion) all other flat face Persians. (If I were the judge)

I never liked flat-face cats. I just want “Snowbell” alike.


i'm also feel sad hearing that... well, i love doll face too than flat face persian
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Backyard breeder? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa

Nobody ever hurt me like you do *sobb*. The cat in the photo is “Snowbell” the cat actor in “Stuart Little 1 & 2”.

He is handsome.. damn beautiful! With that look, he can easily “squash-out” (in my opinion) all other flat face Persians. (If I were the judge)

I never liked flat-face cats. I just want “Snowbell” alike.


i'm also feel sad hearing that... well, i love doll face too than flat face persian

jay,

if i'm not mistaken snowbell is a pedigree cat. there's 6 of them in the film. same breeder. let me check on the net again if i can find
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