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Old 27-03-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Domestic Long Hair VS Persian X

What the different ?
To me there is no such thing as domestic long hair unless it is cross with persian or other breed which is long hair.
Can somebody give an advice on this.
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Old 27-03-2005, 04:13 PM
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Overseas people ni tak sama macam kiter...
Kiter panggil Persian X (cross)... depa panggil domestic long hair... lawak jer
To us domestik tu kira kucing kampung but to them domestic long hair tu untuk kucing bulu panjang yang tak tau asal-usulnya.Cross atau mix hanya untuk kucing yang known parents exaple:

Persian mix Mainecoon

So kalo kiter tanya Mat Salleh

" What breed of cats did you have ?"

Dier akan kater

" I got Persian mix Mainecoon "
or
" I got Birman mix Somali"
Bukannya I got Persian cross or mix. Kalo you tau yang mak dier Persian tapi father tak tau breed aper then it consider domestic long hair walaupun bulu dier gebu giler.
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I think you've just answered your own question.

Choosing of either terms to describe a particular long haired cat pretty much arises depending on who you're talking to. I noticed if the person is like an expert on cats, DLH will be more commonly used and non-experts, Persian X la, Persian mix la, long-haired Persian la, etc. I think so la, normally general cat lovers when you tell them, "I say, that's a nice looking DLH you got there". Then they'll go, "Ya...ya......DL...what?".

When people ask me, I normally just tell them Persian X.

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Domestic longhair is a term to describe all longhair cats, which don’t belong to any breed standard, strictly speaking especially in cat show, all cats without pedigree certificate is called domestic longhair cats. Domestic longhair cats do exist naturally in the cooler climate as do our domestic shorthair cats here.

Persian cross or any longhair cross don’t necessary produce domestic longhair cats, especially cross with shorthair cats, their kittens are more likely to be domestic shorthair than longhairs. Because longhair is a recessive gene and unless both parents have the longhair gene, their kittens will be shorthairs.

For our society, it is easier for people to understand if you describe crossbred kittens as certain breed X certain breed (e.g. Persian X Maine Coon). If the father is unknown then certain breed cross (e.g. Persian cross) rather than just Persian kittens. Mind you, most people don’t know if their Persian cat is a Persian cross or domestic longhair. The kittens they produced are in fact Persian cross, cross or domestic longhair. Of cause there is no Persian XX just domestic longhair cat.
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for me i will use both term to different crowd

if catlovers - DLH
if common people - mixed persian

non catlovers will only understand two terms - kucing kampung (shorthair) and kucing persian (longhair)

they won't understand mainecoon or bengal or whatsoever breed names
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for me i will use both term to different crowd

if catlovers - DLH
if common people - mixed persian

non catlovers will only understand two terms - kucing kampung (shorthair) and kucing persian (longhair)

they won't understand mainecoon or bengal or whatsoever breed names


Yalah that's right Cat,

Malaysian belum advanced about breeds

Try tanya pasal Birman N Balinese

mesti confuse
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Yalah that's right Cat,

Malaysian belum advanced about breeds

Try tanya pasal Birman N Balinese

mesti confuse


kalau kucing siam tu diorg tau la... kalau bulu panjang sure diorg kata "lawa kucing persian"
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Catalina, I couldn't agree with you more. To most Malaysian even most cat lovers, there are only kampung cat, Siamese and Persian.
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Default domestic long hair- naturally occuring in malaysia?

does anyone know if we have naturally occuring long-haired cats in malaysia? not crossed to persian or other foreign breeds?

there is a person in my area who has about 30 cats that live indoors, most rescued. these rescued cats have bred among themselves. some of the offspring are medium/ long-haired, really huge and quite fierce. they are brown or silver tabby with white undersides and have ruffs, medium length hair on the body and really bushy tails. they look like malaysian maine coons!

these cats are really intriguing. the owner feels that it is the food that she gives them that has made a difference - but genetically is it possible for two kucing kampung (DSH X DSH) to occasionally produce medium/long-haired offspring?

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does anyone know if we have naturally occuring long-haired cats in malaysia? not crossed to persian or other foreign breeds?

there is a person in my area who has about 30 cats that live indoors, most rescued. these rescued cats have bred among themselves. some of the offspring are medium/ long-haired, really huge and quite fierce. they are brown or silver tabby with white undersides and have ruffs, medium length hair on the body and really bushy tails. they look like malaysian maine coons!

these cats are really intriguing. the owner feels that it is the food that she gives them that has made a difference - but genetically is it possible for two kucing kampung (DSH X DSH) to occasionally produce medium/long-haired offspring?

shiloh


i believe the longhairs gene is not that exclusive to certain breed only as the origin of all cats, breed or no breed still same like us...

i believe it is also possible for two DSH to have DLH offspring as the longhair gene is recessive. if both parents carry one longhair gene, it is possible for 25% of the kittens to be longhairs.

the genes can be passed thru generations without anyone knowing, unless you do DNA test la

remember that shorthair gene dominant while longhair is recessive. so that a DSH might have only 1 shorthair gene and another must be longhair. for a DLH, both gene must be longhair genes
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