Originally Posted by skareb

FYI:
My 13 yr old cat was neauter long time ago...I've never in my life breed any kitten BUT planning to breed my 1st pair of DLH which I bought last week the female cat.

Originally Posted by skareb

I'm only mocking those who feel ppl should only keep RM15 kats or RM5000 kats. What about the in between? A lot of ppl started from RM15 SPCA adoption, including me. Then we would like to upgrade our hobby to something better, maybe not a pedigree persian but something look a like (DLH) that cost RM500. And if we're more serious we go to something like RM5000. But not everyone travelled all the way to a RM5K kats.

So based on the charted above and if everyone followed it then RM500 would ceased to existed? Coz when I mention breeding DLH ppl kinda gimme a funny look and make it seem a sin to breed and telling me there is plenty in SPCA and in the STREET, which I've look here n there for a DLH and found non and had to resort to buying from petshop n frens.

So the saying of too many DLH proves not true coz I LOOKED for it and found non. If its so easily found dun you think its impossible that shop can still sell them at RM1000? please answer me this.

If you guys are talking about "be responsible"...care for the kitten, dun just sell and try to make a big profit try to look into producing healthy kittens provide quality food...this I 100% can accept, but dun go give me lame excuses that there are TOO many DLH lying around.

If you talk logic I'll talk logic...and about the DLH from pershop dying within 1 week, is also another nonsense, I've bought 4 DLH in this hobby within 13 yrs and non died yet. My mom took one...another one was sold after a few years. And 2 still with me. Dun go curse and scare everyone that petshop cat will die on you bcoz there is also a lot of quality petshop around.

OK neither am I saying that all petshop are very caring....its something like if we buy a BMW of coz for the price you pay you get special quality inspection and more cares are given to the production of the cars. If you buy a proton you dun expect the quality and treatment of a BMW (and we wont be dumb enuf to try to register the cat like who mention earlier)

Ppl with lower budget also has the right to enjoy the hobby, dun go tell me with my RM500 I'm not rich enuf to buy a long hair kat and have to resort to SPCA for a RM15 kat. I've been there.

And about your example of daughters..."you dun sell your daughters". And when they neuter the kittens as far as I'm concern it is to cut the risk of competitions! and not some so noble idea about strays in the streets, coz if you breed a pedigree with my kats standard DLH and selling at RM100, I can guarantee you get a long que at your front door. If you cannot sell pls pass to me I sell it for you..want????? please answer me this also.

If you wanna do biz...just do your biz and dun put down your competitor with nonsense. You dont see BMW speading rumours about proton or kancil very dangerous to your life, no airbags surrounding you like DTS sound system. Because they know, ppl with lower budgets also have the rights to enjoy driving or keeping kats...and this is human life we're talking about right???

Originally Posted by comyncats

There are a few impressions I'm getting from reading your posts.

a) that money figures heavily in your equation;
b) that status symbols are important to you ("upgrade our hobby to something better"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
c) I've not detected any particular affection for cats.

Originally Posted by comyncats

The following statement strikes me as commercial and indicates zero understanding of legitimate breeders:

"And when they neuter the kittens as far as I'm concern it is to cut the risk of competitions!"

Maybe that's it as far as you're concerned, but I've been breeding for over 40 years and let me tell you, as far as I'm concerned, neutering kittens before they are sold (other than to another, legit breeder) is about the welfare and happiness of the cat as well as limiting the possibility of it becoming a BYB kitten mill (as seems to be the destiny of your cat) and so it's not passed on from home to home (as you seem to have done - on-selling your petshop DLH after a few years). It's also because I know that a neutered cat makes a better pet and the purchasers will live more comfortably than with an entire cat.

"Competition"??????????? For crying down the drain - I refuse to sell to more people than I will let have kittens, because I care about their future. I'm perfectly happy to let the 'competition' have the sales if they wish - but my kittens are my responsibility. I have on many occasions GIVEN away kittens to what I know will be super, happy homes rather than sell them to people I deem inappropriate.

God help your RM500 DLH if it needs a caesarian and your decision is based on cost!

Originally Posted by comyncats

Try this photo for size. This is what can happen when a BYB gets their hands on a cat which is used as a kitten machine. And you wonder why breeders neuter before sale? Please change hobbies and collect inanimate, status-enhancing objects. A BMW or Merc sports doesn't know pain nor depression.

Originally Posted by alicia

btw, i have seven dslh and dlh for adoption

Originally Posted by Suzy

psssssssssttttttttt..........my fren is Kelantan called me yesterday with 3 DLH kittens found at his neighbourhood......also up for adoption...