I was wondering how many litters would one possibly end up with in the process of wanting to get a New Pedigree breed ?

Any ideas..........?

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Don't understand the question Suzy...

You mean a new breed? How many litters it would take to confirm a new breed?

As far as I can understand, it's not about the number of litters - it's about maintaining the standard of the new breed...If the cats consistently produce kittens according to the written "standard" then it would be easier I guess to create a new breed.

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Hmmmmmm.......how to put this.

Ok inorder to get reconize a cat as a new breed you will need recorded details of 5 generations right ?

Since a mating with a sibling of a same litter is not allowed, the mating of these 5 generation has to be done with an out cat.......so along the process of wanting to get what is desired, how many kittens/cats would have actually been brought to this world for the sake of wanting to create a NEW BREED.........(actually didn't want to ask in the exact way because many will hide themselve from answering to question like this)

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This one, I don't know - go look up the California Spangled or the Toyger.

What I do know is that if you have a somewhat established breed, for example, the Khoo Manee's all you have to do is be able to consistently breed according to the established standards.

I hope that the "unwanted" kittens are neutered and go to forever home

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Thanks Abymummy! I think i kind of get the idea of how many of the "unwanted" kittens would have been brought to this world regardless of whether or not they were neutered and went to forever homes.......

1970-1986 = 16years x 6 litters (working at minimum) = 96 that's only the minimum count!

a cat that resembled the wild, spotted African Cats, similar to leopards in appearance, but gentle . . . as a lamb. In order to reach this goal, a long breeding and selection program started in the 1970s, crossing several breeds, including: Siamese, British Shorthairs, American Shorthairs, Manx, Abyssinians, and a line of Egyptian and Asian street cats. It took eleven generations before type was fixed. The breed was formally introduced in 1986

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if i'm not mistaken a new breed needs to have some specific numbers of cats that is according to the breed standard before it can be registered as a breed. god knows how much litters need to be produced to produce those cats!

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according to cfa website:

for miscellaneous class - 50 cats of new breed from 10 breeders
for provisional and championship class - 100 cats of new breed from 25 breeders

can't imagine how much litters one new breed have to produce in order to qualify as a breed!

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The simple answer (sez the old experimental breeder from way back) is: "How long's a piece of string????".

It's dependent on so many variables - how acute your eye and instinct in picking the right matings in order to achieve a step closer to the aim every generation; whether you're working alone (VERY tough because you have to keep a pile of cats in your own hands to work with) and then of course, back-tracking and losing generation status to pick up needed traits. It can be affected by set-backs of all sorts - health, not getting what was wanted from X matings.......... all sorts.

Anyway, the answer (per breeder) would possibly be several hundred if all went well. Things have a way of going otherwise, however!!!!

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Exactly my point !!!! So many domestic cats has been brought to this world in the name of being a pioneer/founder of a new breed........

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Several hundreds if everything goes well with one breeder........but if not a thousands with a whole gang working on one new breed .......

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