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Old 05-05-2006, 05:15 PM
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Ummmm, can I ask you, ny8z, if you are a cattery registered with any club/registry? I am asking simply because I know someone who'd like registered kittens...

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I am the owner of the scottish folds, and also responsible for posting those ads. I see you seem to have a problem with that?
Well, for one, the parents are mixed. But obviously both are lucky enough to have the "pure" scottish fold "look" & characteristics. I have already gone through 2 batches of kittens, and all 10 of them are PERFECTLY fine. The disease you're talking about is what happens to kittens from PURE bred scottish fold parents. Where the back feet are slightly bent inwards, which makes it hard & almost impossible for the cat to walk. The folded ears are due to a mutation of the bone formation. Not all kittens will get folded ears, but the ones that do, are not disabled in any way. If you knew as much about cats, you would know that it's highly most unlikely to find a scottish fold kitten that is 100% scottish fold bred.
So i suggest that you get your facts right before posting forums about others that you know totally nothing about.


so are u saying that both the parents arent really certified scottish fold?
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I am the owner of the scottish folds, and also responsible for posting those ads. I see you seem to have a problem with that?
Well, for one, the parents are mixed. But obviously both are lucky enough to have the "pure" scottish fold "look" & characteristics. I have already gone through 2 batches of kittens, and all 10 of them are PERFECTLY fine. The disease you're talking about is what happens to kittens from PURE bred scottish fold parents. Where the back feet are slightly bent inwards, which makes it hard & almost impossible for the cat to walk. The folded ears are due to a mutation of the bone formation. Not all kittens will get folded ears, but the ones that do, are not disabled in any way. If you knew as much about cats, you would know that it's highly most unlikely to find a scottish fold kitten that is 100% scottish fold bred.
So i suggest that you get your facts right before posting forums about others that you know totally nothing about.


Well to get a clear picture... I think you should explain in digrams or pictures to the forumers. From the first look at your add in the adpost I'm also curious why you breed fold with fold... I'm understand with your explaination but others may not.... so instead of firing each other that will leed to no where... its better to explain in a simple English.
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Good the owner is here we can discuss the matter openly.

I wonder if you are aware of the warming in all Scottish Fold articles that Scottish Fold should never breed with Scottish Fold?

I wonder who is the breeder in Australia who supply your with the breeding stock? Did they tell you not to breed Fold to Fold?

I have all the facts and I am ready to argue with you any time.

Since you are so sure, perhaps you could explain what you meant by PURE bred and Mixed bred Scottish Fold?

I tell you, the way you are breeding will guarantee to produce what you so called 100% Scottish Fold bred.

How many of the Scottish Fold offspring do you keep? How old are they? Perhaps those who buy Scottish Fold from the breeder can join in the discussion.
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Yup!
That goes for American Curl and Munchkin as well!
Only one of the parents can be curl (AC) or shortlegs (munchkin). Adalah some diseases or deformaties to the kitten if you breed both curl/shortlegs.

So Melissa.... any of your domestic cats can be breed with those curl, fold and shorty la... hehehe...

But I think a non standard munchkin can be mated with a standard munchkin I guess... it'll increase the % of getting standard kittens.

I think so la... me know bit bit only


Sorry..tumpang lalu...

Fieza,

Munchkin and American Curl is an autosomal dominant.
You can mate Munchkin with domestic cats (shorthair/longhair)...American Curl also can be mate with domestic cats...untill 2010 only to widen the gene pool.After 2010 cannot already lorrrrr...
In American Curl...dominant also means that if a cat with one copy of the curl gene (cat that is said to be heterozygous for the curl trait) is bred to a str8 ear cat ,haft the kitten,on average will have curled ears....x kisah lah 1st , 2nd or 3rd degree curl.
If two heterozygous curls are breed together , three -quaters of the kitten, again on average will have curled ears.
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The following is what I just received from ny8z. He or she was personally attacking me. ny8z if you have anything to say to me say in right here openly.

Get your facts right bitch!!
It's immature for you to trash people on forums ok. If you've got something to say (which i strongly suggest you ask instead), why didn't you just contact me? Grow up already. And start getting your facts right before you trash people!
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Found this on the net:

In general the Scottish Fold is a healthy, hardy cat with a lifespan of approximately 15 yrs. Early in the development of this breed a degenerative joint disease was discovered to be linked with breeding folded-eared cats to folded-eared cats. Because of this, ethical breeders will only breed straight-eared cats to folded- eared cats. Scottish Folds who are the products of folded-ear to straight-ear breedings seldom if ever develop joint disease.

Affected Folds will usually show signs of the disease between the ages of 4 to 6 months. This disease, in its worst case, will cause the joints of the cat's tail, ankles and knees to fuse and stiffen. A Scottish Fold with a very short thickened tail is probably affected to some extent. While this health problem is disabling, it is not life threatening. Though it cannot be cured, it can be very successfully treated.


So, I think, even the fold is only 1st degree fold, it still can't be mated with another fold, even the other one is also a 1st degree. I said this because even the slightest fold meant it's already mutated, yes?

So, BY RIGHT, those fold should only be bred by non fold, meaning those litters that do not fold... hmmm how should I say this... hmm... for munchkin it's called non-standard. That's allowable, right?

So, I think that's what this guy meant. He's breeding his fold cats with his non fold cats (coming from a scottish fold mating). Is it?

Hmmm... right?
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Found this on the net:

In general the Scottish Fold is a healthy, hardy cat with a lifespan of approximately 15 yrs. Early in the development of this breed a degenerative joint disease was discovered to be linked with breeding folded-eared cats to folded-eared cats. Because of this, ethical breeders will only breed straight-eared cats to folded- eared cats. Scottish Folds who are the products of folded-ear to straight-ear breedings seldom if ever develop joint disease.

Affected Folds will usually show signs of the disease between the ages of 4 to 6 months. This disease, in its worst case, will cause the joints of the cat's tail, ankles and knees to fuse and stiffen. A Scottish Fold with a very short thickened tail is probably affected to some extent. While this health problem is disabling, it is not life threatening. Though it cannot be cured, it can be very successfully treated.


So, I think, even the fold is only 1st degree fold, it still can't be mated with another fold, even the other one is also a 1st degree. I said this because even the slightest fold meant it's already mutated, yes?

So, BY RIGHT, those fold should only be bred by non fold, meaning those litters that do not fold... hmmm how should I say this... hmm... for munchkin it's called non-standard. That's allowable, right?

So, I think that's what this guy meant. He's breeding his fold cats with his non fold cats (coming from a scottish fold mating). Is it?

Hmmm... right?


But the pictures of the sire n dam says different.... both are fold but he/she saying that its OK to mate fold with fold if the parents is cross.... boleh ker
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The following is what I just received from ny8z. He or she was personally attacking me. ny8z if you have anything to say to me say in right here openly.

Get your facts right bitch!!
It's immature for you to trash people on forums ok. If you've got something to say (which i strongly suggest you ask instead), why didn't you just contact me? Grow up already. And start getting your facts right before you trash people!

Ny8z, it's very unprofessional to attack pussy like this & if u feel u r very right abt ur breeding then u shud by all mean thrash it out here in the open for all to know. I for sure m interested to know what u hv to say, I'm sure everyone do!!
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