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Old 20-05-2006, 11:34 AM
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HI,
ermm rasanya dah berbulan2 tak masuk Kitten.com, sebab sibuk ngan urusan harian, tapi Grizabella ngan sir duke masih diberi keutamaan ..
Nampaknya kitten.com tak macam dulu, ada saja pihak2 yg tak berpuas hati menyerang pihak tertentu..ermm heran jugak,nape ye??

Dah tak macam dulu, kenapa nak menjatuhkan seseorg sampai memalukan org tu kat public? kenapa tak pvt msg dgn org tu dulu?? apa pun dah tak seronok nak join kat sini..

Soal jual beli kucing nie simple,
Kalau suka beli, kalau tak suka jangan beli, diorg nak jual tu biarlah..dah itu kucing diorg itu hak diorg...selagi binatang berkuku dan bertaring ni, kita beli bukan untuk dimakan atau didera, selagi itu dibenarkan, itu menurut ustaz Zuwairy kat Masjid Al-falakh USJ9 tu..dan terpulanglah masing2 samada nak tambah pahala dgn ambik kucing jalanan atau berkenan di hati beli di kedai..
kan senang???? kenapa nak komplicatedkan benda ni?

Tapi bab yg satu ni kena ambik berat sikit...
Kalau yg sayang kucing sgt tu sampai biarkan kucing berkeliaran dalam umah dan atas katil sesuka hati sampai tak tahu kebersihan umah,lepas tu najis bertaburan dalam rumah dan sampai terbawak ke dalam solat...jgn pulak ambik isu ni ringan dan pandang sebelah mata, sayang pun sayang, tapi bab sembahyang janganlah dibuat main2...

o.klah nak gi hantar grizabella gi vet,
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Old 20-05-2006, 11:47 AM
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HI,
ermm rasanya dah berbulan2 tak masuk Kitten.com, sebab sibuk ngan urusan harian, tapi Grizabella ngan sir duke masih diberi keutamaan ..
Nampaknya kitten.com tak macam dulu, ada saja pihak2 yg tak berpuas hati menyerang pihak tertentu..ermm heran jugak,nape ye??

Dah tak macam dulu, kenapa nak menjatuhkan seseorg sampai memalukan org tu kat public? kenapa tak pvt msg dgn org tu dulu?? apa pun dah tak seronok nak join kat sini..

Soal jual beli kucing nie simple,
Kalau suka beli, kalau tak suka jangan beli, diorg nak jual tu biarlah..dah itu kucing diorg itu hak diorg...selagi binatang berkuku dan bertaring ni, kita beli bukan untuk dimakan atau didera, selagi itu dibenarkan, itu menurut ustaz Zuwairy kat Masjid Al-falakh USJ9 tu..dan terpulanglah masing2 samada nak tambah pahala dgn ambik kucing jalanan atau berkenan di hati beli di kedai..
kan senang???? kenapa nak komplicatedkan benda ni?

Tapi bab yg satu ni kena ambik berat sikit...
Kalau yg sayang kucing sgt tu sampai biarkan kucing berkeliaran dalam umah dan atas katil sesuka hati sampai tak tahu kebersihan umah,lepas tu najis bertaburan dalam rumah dan sampai terbawak ke dalam solat...jgn pulak ambik isu ni ringan dan pandang sebelah mata, sayang pun sayang, tapi bab sembahyang janganlah dibuat main2...

o.klah nak gi hantar grizabella gi vet,
tata!


bukan soal jual beli yang menjadi masalah.
nak jual juallah. nak beli belilah.
tapi soal etika seorang pembiak kucing.
kita sedar ke yang dah terlalu banyak kucing di jalanan. terlalu banyak sehingga sehari kita boleh jumpa sekurang2 nya kucing mati dilanggar. adakah kita mau satu hari nanti kerajaan kita mengeluarkan perintah pada pihak berkuasa tempatan utk menangkap dan menghapus semua kucing dijalanan seperti yang dilakukan kepada anjing dan gagak.

oleh itu nak jual juallah tapi tolonglah sebelum jual kembirikan kucing itu dulu. takkan kita tak tau pihak JAKIM telah mewartakan fatwa berdasarkan mashlahat umum utk mengharuskan kembiri kucing bagi menjamin keselesaan dan kesihatan masyarakat.
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Old 20-05-2006, 12:20 PM
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bukan soal jual beli yang menjadi masalah.
nak jual juallah. nak beli belilah.
tapi soal etika seorang pembiak kucing.
kita sedar ke yang dah terlalu banyak kucing di jalanan. terlalu banyak sehingga sehari kita boleh jumpa sekurang2 nya kucing mati dilanggar. adakah kita mau satu hari nanti kerajaan kita mengeluarkan perintah pada pihak berkuasa tempatan utk menangkap dan menghapus semua kucing dijalanan seperti yang dilakukan kepada anjing dan gagak.

oleh itu nak jual juallah tapi tolonglah sebelum jual kembirikan kucing itu dulu. takkan kita tak tau pihak JAKIM telah mewartakan fatwa berdasarkan mashlahat umum utk mengharuskan kembiri kucing bagi menjamin keselesaan dan kesihatan masyarakat.


Kalau lah etika diorg tu yg diambil kira deal aje dgn org yg kita trust,aku cukup berhati2 masa membeli Grizabella dgn Sir Duke dulu...dan kenal benar dgn owner asal diaorg...
kalau org tu melanggar hak asasi haiwan, kenakan tindakan dan hukuman, senang aje..undang2 kan ada, report aje..

kembiri tu kembiri jugak, jgn sampai semua dikembirikan sampai haiwan tu pupus.Anjing dan gagak memang membawa wabak, sebab tu kita org islam tak leh tinggal ngan anjing, dan tak leh makan binatang yg memakan bangkai...kenapa nak MESTI kembirikan kucing sebelum dijual??? terpulanglah kalau org tu mampu nak jaga kucing banyak,kalau rasa tak larat nak jaga banyak, barulah pembeli tu kembirikan sendiri, dah ramai forumer kat sini yg buat.

Kalau nak sokong kucing jalanan sokonglah, mmg bagus niat tu,jgn pulak nanti timbul perbalahan, seharusnya kita memupuk minat kepada semua org supaya selamatkan kucing jalanan nih,
aku pun sentiasa get ready makanan kucing kat kereta kot2 terserempak ngan stray cats nie..nak ambil diaorg mmg tak larat,sebab tinggal sorg diri..cukuplah kuota 2 eko..sof far tiap hari aku kuar umah, dan ulang alik gi keje, cuma terserempak 2 ekor kucing yg sama kat kedai tempat aku selalu makan...
takdalah sampai tahap aku kemana2 nampak diaorg memanjang..itu memang parah!
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Old 20-05-2006, 12:45 PM
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Kalau lah etika diorg tu yg diambil kira deal aje dgn org yg kita trust,aku cukup berhati2 masa membeli Grizabella dgn Sir Duke dulu...dan kenal benar dgn owner asal diaorg...
kalau org tu melanggar hak asasi haiwan, kenakan tindakan dan hukuman, senang aje..undang2 kan ada, report aje..

kembiri tu kembiri jugak, jgn sampai semua dikembirikan sampai haiwan tu pupus.Anjing dan gagak memang membawa wabak, sebab tu kita org islam tak leh tinggal ngan anjing, dan tak leh makan binatang yg memakan bangkai...kenapa nak MESTI kembirikan kucing sebelum dijual??? terpulanglah kalau org tu mampu nak jaga kucing banyak,kalau rasa tak larat nak jaga banyak, barulah pembeli tu kembirikan sendiri, dah ramai forumer kat sini yg buat.

Kalau nak sokong kucing jalanan sokonglah, mmg bagus niat tu,jgn pulak nanti timbul perbalahan, seharusnya kita memupuk minat kepada semua org supaya selamatkan kucing jalanan nih,
aku pun sentiasa get ready makanan kucing kat kereta kot2 terserempak ngan stray cats nie..nak ambil diaorg mmg tak larat,sebab tinggal sorg diri..cukuplah kuota 2 eko..sof far tiap hari aku kuar umah, dan ulang alik gi keje, cuma terserempak 2 ekor kucing yg sama kat kedai tempat aku selalu makan...
takdalah sampai tahap aku kemana2 nampak diaorg memanjang..itu memang parah!


sebab kenapa penjual kena kembiri sebelum dijualkan kepada pembeli sebab nenanti pembeli tu pula start membiakkan kucingnya dan start pula menjual kucingnya dan pusingannya bermula kembali, dan akhirnya kucing di jalan makin bertambah sebab penjual makin banyak, kucing tak laku, diorang lepaskan di pasar2 atau nauzubillah, diorang mungkin put to sleep. kan lebih baik dikembirikan dulu.

kucing2 domestic takkan pupus sebab terlampau banyak. kucing leh beranak lebih 3 kali setahun. setiap kali beranak dapat purata 4 -5 ekor.
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People will judge others because they are insecure about themselves.
I am to afraid to be open about what I thought. I am just ordinary girl with extraodinary creativity.


Its not about judging, but its about putting what right at its rightful place. You can read clearly the intention of Esma @ LuvlyPersian, he put it clearly that he's really breeding the cat for money. solely for money.

Me, I'm not afraid to be open about my believes and thought. If I think this is not right, I will voice it out.

Masalahnya bukan semua orang betul2 sayang kan kucing. Kalau tidak takde lah masalah cam Kak Dilla tu. Kak Dilla tu one of forumer yang this sort of peope (esma and friends) bangga2 kan. Kalau u baca balik post2 yang lepas, bukan main dipujinya kak dilla ni. skang where is kak dilla?
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Hi Wahdi,

Care to share some latest pics of Grizabella and Sir Duke......

This forum has been stuffed with too much garbage from self appointed pros...it will be good to have some good pics of your cat to cheer up the space here...
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Me too LinaA. No heart feeling.
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kembiri tu kembiri jugak, jgn sampai semua dikembirikan sampai haiwan tu pupus.


Hehe.. from my point of view la kan. Kucing ni takkan pupus. Katakan la semer org nueter kucing2 they all, yg kat jalan2 tu still lagi akan membiak sebab takkan dapat selamatkan semua. The thing now is, we do not want to add to the current population kat luar sana tu... so, even kalau all pet owners neuter their cats, cats will not extinct.

Also, there are still pedigree breeders yg akan still breed their cats. The pet quality will be nuetered and only sell breeding cats to a cattery instead of individual. If everyone follows the same rule, cats will not pupus either.

Again, if cats can pupus, dah lama dah pupus. Everyday day sama ada kita tau ke tak, cats get killed in the road, kena bunuh dgn budak2 jahat, kena tangkap kat SPCA and kalau takde sapa adopt, they will be put to sleep. In fact dah byk dah kucing kena put to sleep. Kadang2... tangkap je dah kena put to sleep sebab takde tempat nak letak they all dah.

That's the harsh fact.

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sof far tiap hari aku kuar umah, dan ulang alik gi keje, cuma terserempak 2 ekor kucing yg sama kat kedai tempat aku selalu makan...
takdalah sampai tahap aku kemana2 nampak diaorg memanjang..itu memang parah


This is what I thought when I only see a few strays near my place and most of the place I went. Until one day, I went to a place I seldom go and it was so sad to see the strays there.

So, it's not true when you think the situation is not bad just because you didnt see it.
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If you were to search thouroughly in the Internet, you will discover that the site for bonsaikitten.com is setup as a cruel joke by some sick people. The FBI has been on them since animal welfare society make formal reports against the websites. Eventough its only a joke but the degree of the joke so disturbing and sick.
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nasib baik lah hanya jenaka..tk dapat nk bayang betape seksanye kalau betul-betul jadi. Lg baik kn makan dpd cmtu. tp kesian la kucing yg kena sumbat dlm botol tu..

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