Let me just add on some more thoughts on this thread. I've said this before and I'll say it again,
"To Champion is easy (especially if you're not competing with anyone else!) but to Grand is very, very hard!"

Let me give you an example: My Stevie is the absolute best Abysinnian in Malaysia (3rd Best of Breed in CFA ID Asia for year ending 2006) and that's a given, everyone knows it. BUT, he has yet to grand...why? The reason is simple, he's a very good example of his breed, but he is NOT OUTSTANDING! He's still a few points shy of Granding, the title GC will come, sooner or later...

To me, for my cats to be a champion is Not Enough. If I want kittens of my breeding to go good, loving homes, I'd like for the new owner to know that they have the best that I can give them.

One of the main reasons why my kittens haven't gone to new homes yet is just that - even Granding is NOT ENOUGH. For the first time in History, Malaysian breeders are chasing the elusive title of DW (Division Winner) - we have the great cats of our own breeding, and thankfully we have the funds to go out and chase that title...

But then, hey, if there are breeders out there whom are perfectly satisfied with their cats only having CH titles, so be it.

I've learnt a lot of lessons this last Micatz about being a breeder - one of the most important is that, you, the breeder, is the first judge of your cats/kittens. I knew that my little girl is the better cat but I also knew that the little boy would be the one winning - why? That I could not explain...so I showed them both - and the judges explained why - it's all about the earset...hmmm...

I now realise that a two day show is exhausting, exhilirating and fun...when, at the very end of the two days in the last two rings 3 of my cats were called for finals I knew that all that I had worked for was in the end WORTH IT!!!

Showing is not about winning and losing, it's not about being able to sell your cats just because their lineage is full of Champions and Grands - it's about being in love with your cats, it's breed and being around people who feel the same way you do...

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You've got it in one (or two)! It's a celebration of cats, period. Gee - as far as champs and grands in my lines (well - I think I've mentioned before) it doesn't matter a damn to me! (Much as it's nice to have a bunch of kittens of the year!) A title doesn't change anything about a cat! There are lots of unworthy titled cats out there and conversely, a bunch of super cats who just don't go to shows for one reason or another.

Coony mentioned some getting a Ch title on day 1 and not fronting on day 2 - if the 'success' of having titled on Day 1 was the reason people didn't return, (rather than having other committments) then that's a pretty short term view of things!

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from my view, that is of a person who only owns show neuters, cat shows are also about promoting responsible cat ownership (espcially in malaysia). there is nothing lacking in owning a neutered cats. they can still be shown, they can premier and grand premier and it is all still great fun and very educational. it's a fantastic way to meet people and compete minus the heartache and effort of being a responsible breeder.

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Alicia Ling Horsley

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"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."Dante

Well what Coony and Abymummy said are basically more of a breeder point of view in showing. It's really great.

But I have a question, is that all there is? What about the owners of the show neuters, apart from winning and losing, what else is there? Especially the ones owned by a non breeder.

Some said, for the fun of it. Some said educational. Hehe, whatever makes you sleep at night I should say.

Just let's say I have a show neuter to show, it's all going to be about winning baby! Which is very valid I think, right? Or not? Although winning is all about the cat tittle, which actually nothing material but... I just can't explain it. It's such a good feeling to say, I have a Gr Pr cat! Wouldn't it?

But then again, this is me. Whatever makes me sleep at night, eh.

to promote responsible pet ownership!

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Alicia Ling Horsley

Pet Epicure
We feed our pets PINK raw food
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"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."Dante

To me, showing cats is to support the local club which is a platform for cat lovers (no club, no show, no fun ) and most importantly to see all the good cats of my fav breed - Exotic shorthairs! Of course if my cats are good enough to win some ribbons it will be a bonus

I was asking myself the other day... So what if I had an excellent cat that has won so many titles? Who actually cares? At the end of the day the ribbons are just ribbons. It's the ups and downs in life that you have gone through with your cats and your breeding experience that matter, aint it?

feaza& the rest,

what Coony and abbymummy were trying to explain to us is from a breeder side of View... of cos i am not doubting that u dunno (u stated clearly about it..)

and as for a nuetered cat. it is the same as well! if u are getting a cat and u are showing them, it is not all about winning? there's a lot of things that's to take into account. the condition of the cat, grooming? temperament?

let say even if u are entering a NUETERED HOUSEHOLD, what's wrong with that? just because u lost on the first day's four ring doesn't mean tat u should withdraw ur cat rite? no matter what we should have the sportmanship when it comes to showing cat, whether or not it is in championship, premier or HH~!



totally agree with that~! it is also showing how wellu taken care of ur cat. and let say if in Premier class when u cat lost. u can always go and ask the judge after the ring. it might be the condition of the cat or the temperament.

G!n

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I delete my comment since we have cleared the issue. Thanks Alicia.

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If you think I am a human, you are DEAD wrong because.. Im a domesticated shorthair cat who went to school!

My Boys:- Trey Joshua Jay (DLH); Leroy Allen Jay (MCO); William Henry Jay (MCO)

jay,

i know what you're like so i won't take offense.

So lets get a few things clear

• i did not imply that failure to show your cats = bad owners
• what i had hoped to say was that the more high profile people (cat exhibitors) are seen to have neuters, the more acceptable and mainstream the idea of speutering will become.

so calm down.

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"The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."Dante