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Old 15-04-2008, 10:05 PM
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Highest Scoring Kitten - Glee Gulu's Gala Gaia of Autumnleaf
Highest Scoring Cat in Championship - GC Parti Wai Lucky Star of Lucus
Highest Scoring Cat in Premiership - GP Masmera SinarSuria
Highest Scoring Household Pet - To be Advised - there were two cats that held top spot. I had the wrong name, my apologies!


According to what we were told, the show manager and the entry clerk have been informed of the substitution of cats for the HHP, why is it so difficult to put in the name of the "winner"? Can't find it in the programme book?


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The changes made after the entry has been close and catalog has been printed. We can't change the cat actually but we make exception for HHP. It's not our fault for that.
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Old 15-04-2008, 10:34 PM
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Ruth,

I am very pleased to announce that the hotly constested Highest Scoring Household Pets ARE:

Tiny Tina AND Koko.

As for your enquiries per show rulings - I would direct you to Show rule #15.01.1 which allows for substitution or new entries at the Show Manager's discretion at a cost of US$50 to CFA + entry fee.
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As for your enquiries per show rulings - I would direct you to Show rule #15.01.1 which allows for substitution or new entries at the Show Manager's discretion at a cost of US$50 to CFA + entry fee.[/QUOTE]

Yes, the show rules may have allowed for substitution or new entries. There being such a provision in the show rules does not mean that the proper procedures were adhered to. Adilah, I was told how the transition really took place and I'm sure you knew too, so we would appreciate some straight answers.

How come the ring clerks and the judges didn't know about the substitution if all the documents were in order? Was there even any record of this substitution or new entrant? If it was truly a proper new entry or substitution, I'm sure all judges would have been informed and you would have known the name of the entry no. 116, which you apparently did not know when you posted the results the first time. The judge would not have needed to ask the owner the colour and sex of the cat which apparently was different in his document.

Imagine at the Miss Malaysia contest, the finalists had been selected from among the official entrants and someone who had not been officially entered won the title. How would the others feel?
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Old 16-04-2008, 11:28 AM
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The result already posted on our blog. Please check it out
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The changes made after the entry has been close and catalog has been printed. We can't change the cat actually but we make exception for HHP. It's not our fault for that.


This is very confusing. "We can't change the cat actually...." That was not what Adilah and Alicia said. Adilah said that substitutions or new entries are allowed under CFA rule #15.01.1. So, which is it? 'You can't or you can?' Contradicting, isn't it? I wonder under what conditions are exceptions made. Seems to us that rules are made to be broken.
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This is very confusing. "We can't change the cat actually...." That was not what Adilah and Alicia said. Adilah said that substitutions or new entries are allowed under CFA rule #15.01.1. So, which is it? 'You can't or you can?' Contradicting, isn't it? I wonder under what conditions are exceptions made. Seems to us that rules are made to be broken.


Ruth ... im sorry yes you can do the changes ... but you will be charge USD50 for any changes made. But what happen not is you just change the cat not the detail in the catalog ....

anyway .. it just and HHP we didn't strict like we do on the pedigree ... because it didnt not carry any point..
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The result already posted on our blog. Please check it out


There are MANY MISTAKES in the results posted on the //www.catfriendofasia.wordpress.com for my cats.
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There are MANY MISTAKES in the results posted on the //www.catfriendofasia.wordpress.com for my cats.



please do email me if you see the mistake

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ruth ... it just and HHP .. there is no point carry to CFA .. so please don't as something that just make it more and more confusing for you and everybody else ... if the trophy or the rosette that you want ... i will ask adilah to make another one and i will gladly pay for it

Dru, I don't agree with your statement, of all person how can you said such thing, hv you forgotten your HHP after hving your pedigree. HHP or pedigree is not an issue here & shud never be, since all the cats are judge by the same judges why shud there be double standard. What I can see here is tht Ruth is asking for fairness & not rosette or trohpy, pls don't mock her in public to cover you guys fault. Actually I don't wish to write this post but I think it's already too much of you to say such thing.


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Ruth ... im sorry yes you can do the changes ... but you will be charge USD50 for any changes made. But what happen not is you just change the cat not the detail in the catalog ....

anyway .. it just and HHP we didn't strict like we do on the pedigree ... because it didnt not carry any point..


The exhibitor shouldn't be the one to be charged. THE ORGANIZER is the one that will be charged and make it payable to CFA.



Pls. read the below CFA Show Rules related to this matter:-

3.01 A cat or kitten shown in the wrong class or under incorrect name, ownership, or registration number may be disqualified by the Central Office and any wins voided.


3.01.01 A cat or kitten for which an entry form was not submitted prior to the close of entries is subject to disqualification. A cat or kitten being exhibited must match the entry form which was submitted for entry to the show.



4.01 & 11.01 Any person entering a cat or kitten in a show held under the rules of CFA shall by such act agree to abide by, and this person and the entry of this person shall be subject to, these rules.



15.01.1 Should the show manager permit a cat/kitten whose entry information is not printed in the catalog to compete, the show manager shall provide a written statement of explanation, for the review of CFA Central Office, which shall determine if the entry was eligible for competition. The show manager’s statement and all documents pertaining to his/her decision must be submitted with the show package to the Central Office. Entries deemed not eligible by the Central Office will not receive credit for any award(s) achieved at the show.

The show manager must prepare an addendum to include all information for any entry not included in the show catalog, which is to be posted with the master clerk and included with the official show records submitted to the central office. A fee of $50 per addendum will be charged to the club/entry clerk/show service and must be submitted with the show packet.



10.01 A protest asserting an alleged violation of these rules by any show official, judge, exhibitor or member club may be made by an exhibitor, an officiating judge or by a member of a member club and may first be made to the show committee in writing at the show or within thirty (30) days following the show. The show committee shall endeavor to gather all pertinent facts concerning the alleged violation(s) and in the event the show committee deems the protest to be supported by substantial evidence, the written protest and all relevant matter gathered by the show committee shall be forwarded the CFA Executive Board. However, the person(s) asserting the alleged violation may opt to bring the fact directly to the CFA Protest Committee.

The Executive Board may, at it’s option, proceed to hear the protest after giving the party charged due notice and opportunity to be heard in accordance with Article XV of The CFA Constitution. Upon a finding of guilty, the Board shall prescribe punishment in accordance with Article XV of The CFA Constitution.
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