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Old 26-06-2008, 07:05 PM
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DVS Cheras offers microchipping at a very reasonable price if I'm not mistaken, maybe RM35 or a bit more. Heshmael clinic for pets does chipping as well ... not sure about the others
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Old 26-06-2008, 07:15 PM
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Abymummy,do u know which vet have this service?? Mine takdelah.My pretty Flowerhorn was catnap 3 or 4 mths ago. I saw her dekat rmh neighbour but I cannot go to her house and take her just like that without any proof.


sis june, dekat klinik haiwan cheras ade kot.mcm pernah nampak..tp sbb pernah ternampak iklan utk implan mikrochip.kalo x silap la..atau ternampak kat tmpt lain..heheh tak ingat plak.... cuba call kat sana..

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Old 26-06-2008, 07:22 PM
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Dukunlintah, the shop can definitely be charged with possession of stolen goods mcm kedai beli parts of a dismantled stolen car, or stolen hifi sets ... but you need to supply proof (eg. police report) that it is the same cat you lost that they had in their possession serupa la like chasis number for engine, stolen paintings, jewellery, radio, PCs, notebooks, hifi sets, kasut kita stolen from our house, furniture, etc. ... you name it ... do you remember the goldsmith that was charged in this manner becos they bought the jewellery from the thieves and then even melted them?

Possible charge also can be as an accomplice or abetting in a crime of theft. You read all these charges in the newspapers all the time.


Thanks all for the responds.
Furkids, do we have any written legislation that cover this? The one you mentioned doesn't involved live animals. Or, do we have any real cases in which the pet shop being charged of possesion of stolen pets or animals? So far, haven,t read any in the newspaper involving cats.

Abymummy, yes.. microchipping is the best way of proving ownership.

However, I would like to throw a suggestion here. Majority of cat owners are members of one cat club. Clubs should encourage members to register their cats (be it pedigree or not) with the clubs and they will be issued a Club's cat registration numbers and card (Not CFA/FIFe etc registration) which include detail history of the cat and photos. This is one way of proving the ownership and Clubs will have its part in supporting their members, should the above cases happen to one of clubs members. I hope Clubs will give a thinker on this.

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Old 26-06-2008, 08:06 PM
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Thanks all for the responds.
Furkids, do we have any written legislation that cover this? The one you mentioned doesn't involved live animals. Or, do we have any real cases in which the pet shop being charged of possesion of stolen pets or animals? So far, haven,t read any in the newspaper involving cats.

Abymummy, yes.. microchipping is the best way of proving ownership.

However, I would like to throw a suggestion here. Majority of cat owners are members of one cat club. Clubs should encourage members to register their cats (be it pedigree or not) with the clubs and they will be issued a Club's cat registration numbers and card (Not CFA/FIFe etc registration) which include detail history of the cat and photos. This is one way of proving the ownership and Clubs will have its part in supporting their members, should the above cases happen to one of clubs members. I hope Clubs will give a thinker on this.

Thanks.


If you only breed one colour and one breed of cat like myself, even a certificate of registration is insufficient since not many (proven) can tell the difference between one Ruddy Abyssinian to another! So in circumstances like this, it is, unfortunately, the microchip which can prove ownership. Of course, with Abyssinians, it's easier as there are few Aby owners or breeders...
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If you only breed one colour and one breed of cat like myself, even a certificate of registration is insufficient since not many (proven) can tell the difference between one Ruddy Abyssinian to another! So in circumstances like this, it is, unfortunately, the microchip which can prove ownership. Of course, with Abyssinians, it's easier as there are few Aby owners or breeders...


i believed microchipping is the best way. photos hard to use as proof. Perhaps, soon we will have national micro chip number database..therefore, all vets and necessary govt. body can access to it.

Even, petshop can check the cat before actually decide to buy from a person. since the price is not so expensive, maybe all petshops and cat breeders can look into this matter.
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i believed microchipping is the best way. photos hard to use as proof. Perhaps, soon we will have national micro chip number database..therefore, all vets and necessary govt. body can access to it.

Even, petshop can check the cat before actually decide to buy from a person. since the price is not so expensive, maybe all petshops and cat breeders can look into this matter.


Thanks. Looks like the microchip is the way.
Question :-
1. Can we double implanted the microchip? If can, what will be the side effects to the cats (health wise)?
2. What if somebody stole the cat and implant the microchip? Does the vet knows before implanting the microchip again? and what will be the vet procedure before implanting the microchip?
3. What if I want to sell or give away my microchip implanted cats?

Sorry for the question above as I guess the vet is the appropriate person to answer that. Btw, everbody's opinions and advise in this matter will be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 26-06-2008, 11:48 PM
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Thanks. Looks like the microchip is the way.
Question :-
1. Can we double implanted the microchip? If can, what will be the side effects to the cats (health wise)?
2. What if somebody stole the cat and implant the microchip? Does the vet knows before implanting the microchip again? and what will be the vet procedure before implanting the microchip?
3. What if I want to sell or give away my microchip implanted cats?

Sorry for the question above as I guess the vet is the appropriate person to answer that. Btw, everbody's opinions and advise in this matter will be much appreciated. Thanks.


1. Double implanting - I have done that before... so far, alhamdullilah the cat is fine no health issues. The reader will pick up both chips one after the other.

2. Depending on the coat of the cat for the feel test. Good vets will scan the cat first to make sure there's no chip there in the 1st place before implanting the chip. As for procedure, it depends on how expert the vet is in chipping the cat. If very expert, there's no need to shave the area (usually along the neck/shoulder) insert needle and plant chip. It does hurt the cat I admit (the needle is very big) but only for a little while. After shaving, the area is disinfected, inject and disinfect again. Very little to no bleeding.

3. No reason why you cannot sell/rehome cats that have been chipped, it's done all the time...you keep your own records and so will the vet. There are a few spare stickers of the microchip # which you can keep for your own records, give the balance away to the new owner so that their vet can have a record too!
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1. Double implanting - I have done that before... so far, alhamdullilah the cat is fine no health issues. The reader will pick up both chips one after the other.

2. Depending on the coat of the cat for the feel test. Good vets will scan the cat first to make sure there's no chip there in the 1st place before implanting the chip. As for procedure, it depends on how expert the vet is in chipping the cat. If very expert, there's no need to shave the area (usually along the neck/shoulder) insert needle and plant chip. It does hurt the cat I admit (the needle is very big) but only for a little while. After shaving, the area is disinfected, inject and disinfect again. Very little to no bleeding.

3. No reason why you cannot sell/rehome cats that have been chipped, it's done all the time...you keep your own records and so will the vet. There are a few spare stickers of the microchip # which you can keep for your own records, give the balance away to the new owner so that their vet can have a record too!


Thanks abymummy! for a very good and reassurance info. Hmm big needle? Pity to the cats. Btw, from your experiences, mind suggesting good vet with reasonable charges for the above? Thanking you in advance.
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Old 27-06-2008, 12:02 AM
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Thanks abymummy! for a very good and reassurance info. Hmm big needle? Pity to the cats. Btw, from your experiences, mind suggesting good vet with reasonable charges for the above? Thanking you in advance.


Errrm, I only trust my 2 vets (private) BUT I do know that JPH (DVS) Cheras has some excellent vets and are very cost effective for microchipping!
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Thanks all for the responds.
Furkids, do we have any written legislation that cover this? The one you mentioned doesn't involved live animals. Or, do we have any real cases in which the pet shop being charged of possesion of stolen pets or animals? So far, haven,t read any in the newspaper involving cats.

Abymummy, yes.. microchipping is the best way of proving ownership.

However, I would like to throw a suggestion here. Majority of cat owners are members of one cat club. Clubs should encourage members to register their cats (be it pedigree or not) with the clubs and they will be issued a Club's cat registration numbers and card (Not CFA/FIFe etc registration) which include detail history of the cat and photos. This is one way of proving the ownership and Clubs will have its part in supporting their members, should the above cases happen to one of clubs members. I hope Clubs will give a thinker on this.

Thanks.
dukunlintah, property ada sebut live and not live ke? Kalo you harbour illegal immigrants how do you think they prosecute you?

Biasanya when you lodge a police report on property lost (did U or not in the first place, complete with description of goods, photos, etc), like all goods (don't complicate things with live or not live unless it is obvious things that you cannot obtain through a purchase like your wife - stolen in the night and sold off ... just kidding, friend ...) the police supposed to go out and investigate la (but whether they do it or malas and tutup buku is lain cerita pulak lah ...).

If in their pursuit of the trail of the stolen goods (eg. your cat or some wild protected animal or parts of my 4WD, etc) they found it in a shop, ahaaaaa!!!! they should do their job la ...

Saya think laaa, bruder ...

Huh, if my FurKid is found in a pet shop, I make police report about my reported stolen (pagar, pintu cage dan mangga meka pecah aperrrrr ....) discovered in the shop complete with gambo of my darlings sitting pretty and tear-stained muker kesian in der shop wan lehhhh ... I will also take the shop owner to court myself ahhhhh .... but my senapang patah I leave at home laaaa ....
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