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Old 21-12-2007, 02:40 PM
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Unhappy A very sad pregnancy...

Last night, at past 2 a.m., 21st December 2007, my Harmony gave birth. It was a shock cos I came out of the room and thought there was a dead mouse under the table. Turns out to be the firstborn! Rushed about getting her comfy and everything, and she chose to have her babies on my bed (arghh, my black satin sheets habis). But...

Harmony's too young I think, she didn't know what to do. She had 4 kittens, and through each one, me and my friend had to break open the fluid sac by ourselves, clean it ourselves, etc. The 4th one, she didn't even push it out! Just left it there and sat down, no effort at all, like she didn't even know what was happening, we had to gently ease it out. The 3rd and 4th one were stillborn... I don't know, but I think it was because she didn't break open the sac for the 3rd one in the head area (we didn't notice this as it was hidden), and left it not able to breathe for too long, and because she just left the 4th one out halfway through with the head still inside for too long. I don't know... just a theory.

It was so heartbreaking to see the two lifeless little ones... and Harmony wasn't helping, the two live ones were like nothing to her. It's her first litter, that's understandable that she doesn't understand, but it's still so sad. She tried to eat them! In the morning... we found the remains of the 4th kitten, the stillborn, almost all eaten by her own mummy...

The vet only opened at 11, you see, so through the night we tried to get mummy and kittens together, and she bit them once so hard that they bled a bit. She's rejected them. The vet said:

1) She's too young, she's confused and doesn't know anything
2) Her glands are not developed; she has no milk
3) The kittens suckling reflexes are poor, they have no interest in suckling at all.

And it didn't help that on the way to the vet... the firstborn died... a white kitten... so cute and active just seconds before... just... stopped moving...

And now we're left with the only survivor; an apparently male black kitten that I'm planning to call Noel. I'm so sad... I had been looking forward to this so excitedly... but I thank God that at least one of them made it through but I'm not sure how long it will hold on. I'm doing everything I can, vet gave me a few things to help out... I hope it goes well.

It was so heartbreaking to bury two siblings together, side by side, and then coming home from the vet just to bury another one with them... I cried and cried (yes I admit it).

PS: About spaying, yes I did intend to spay her, but you see, I'm very financially unstable, and had to slowly save up for the spaying, and she came into heat before I was able to. She one day escaped through an open door someone carelessly left, and that was it.
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Old 21-12-2007, 03:02 PM
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Last night, at past 2 a.m., 21st December 2007, my Harmony gave birth. It was a shock cos I came out of the room and thought there was a dead mouse under the table. Turns out to be the firstborn! Rushed about getting her comfy and everything, and she chose to have her babies on my bed (arghh, my black satin sheets habis). But...

Harmony's too young I think, she didn't know what to do. She had 4 kittens, and through each one, me and my friend had to break open the fluid sac by ourselves, clean it ourselves, etc. The 4th one, she didn't even push it out! Just left it there and sat down, no effort at all, like she didn't even know what was happening, we had to gently ease it out. The 3rd and 4th one were stillborn... I don't know, but I think it was because she didn't break open the sac for the 3rd one in the head area (we didn't notice this as it was hidden), and left it not able to breathe for too long, and because she just left the 4th one out halfway through with the head still inside for too long. I don't know... just a theory.

It was so heartbreaking to see the two lifeless little ones... and Harmony wasn't helping, the two live ones were like nothing to her. It's her first litter, that's understandable that she doesn't understand, but it's still so sad. She tried to eat them! In the morning... we found the remains of the 4th kitten, the stillborn, almost all eaten by her own mummy...

The vet only opened at 11, you see, so through the night we tried to get mummy and kittens together, and she bit them once so hard that they bled a bit. She's rejected them. The vet said:

1) She's too young, she's confused and doesn't know anything
2) Her glands are not developed; she has no milk
3) The kittens suckling reflexes are poor, they have no interest in suckling at all.

And it didn't help that on the way to the vet... the firstborn died... a white kitten... so cute and active just seconds before... just... stopped moving...

And now we're left with the only survivor; an apparently male black kitten that I'm planning to call Noel. I'm so sad... I had been looking forward to this so excitedly... but I thank God that at least one of them made it through but I'm not sure how long it will hold on. I'm doing everything I can, vet gave me a few things to help out... I hope it goes well.

It was so heartbreaking to bury two siblings together, side by side, and then coming home from the vet just to bury another one with them... I cried and cried (yes I admit it).

PS: About spaying, yes I did intend to spay her, but you see, I'm very financially unstable, and had to slowly save up for the spaying, and she came into heat before I was able to. She one day escaped through an open door someone carelessly left, and that was it.


pity her...how old is she? think u should spay her ...
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Old 21-12-2007, 03:07 PM
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Umm yes I did write about the spaying part in the last bit, if you read it. I most probably will after this. She should be about 8 or 9 months now. *Sigh*
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gd luck with the survivor...how is he today?
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Old 21-12-2007, 03:17 PM
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gd luck with the survivor...how is he today?


Thanks for the concern, he's looking alright, sleeping now in nice warm little box. He looks so... content and peaceful now compared to earlier. Didn't drink much, but still managed to get him to pee, which means it's going in his system thankfully. I do hope he makes it.
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Well... Noel died too... I don't know what to say or think anymore...
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my take on this is.. dont feel to sad about it. its no ones fault. cats are live animals and are part of nature, its just that since they've been domesticated and lived among humans that we impose some of our values on to them. its their way to learn how to deal with pregnancy and giving birth (since they dont have mak bidans and an O & G specialists to look out for them) which is pretty important for their continual survival. spay, dont spay.. it doesnt matter if you're responsible enough to take action. I'm sure if the kittens survived you will go out your way to make sure they are well taken care of. From :

http://www.animalhealthchannel.com/felinepregnancy/

"The first litter of a queen with one or two large kittens may be difficult and assistance may be needed. Healthy queens seldom have difficulty with delivery. Queens that are inbred, have nutritional deficiencies, or a disease may have poor uterine contractions (inertia) and require assistance. Trauma or a nutritional deficiency may result in a pelvic deformity causing difficult delivery. Surgical intervention or medication may be needed for difficult births.The queen usually eats stillborn kittens and placentas. Cannibalism is seen usually in the highly nervous, first-time queens. "
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Thank you very very very much to all of you who have shown me support through this tough time. I'm really such an animal lover and I'm about 200% more sentimental than anyone I've known so far so it hits me hard.

For anyone who is curious, here's my situation: I'm a student, living alone far from family, with a debt of thousands and thousands of ringgit 100% caused by old housemates that ran away from their responsbility of paying it off and let it fall on me, with the risk of me getting kicked out every month as long as I don't pay it, which is very very stressful as you can imagine. Plus I'm not getting help from family as I cannot let them know about the situation for certain reasons, and borrowing money from friends would be too much for me to ask. I have a heart condition which doesn't allow me to work much part time either, so it's quite a tricky situation. I rely on a small weekly allowance which comes in thankfully. Nevertheless, I have 4 cats which are well cared for (and they came along before my money problems), I make sure of that no matter what problems I may have or whether I eat or not. I'm not asking for sympathy, nor am I showing off or something, I am merely clarifying. Thank you.
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I suppose... maybe when I am ready, they will come back.

And I need to clarify this: I made that post explaining my situation due to some negativity going on that has already been deleted by admins, that I felt I had to explain what was really going on. That's all
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